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Katharine Kanter
Inscrit le: 19 Jan 2004 Messages: 1479 Localisation: Paris
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Posté le: Ven Avr 23, 2021 10:13 pm Sujet du message: Allesdichtmachen - German actors, singers etc. get to WORK |
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Allesdichtmachen
This is hilarious. Or at least, it would be, were matters not so goddam serious.
Something like 40 German actors, singers etc., have created a Video channel called
Allesdichtmachen
which means "ShutEverythingDown".
It's the equivalent of Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal.
Brilliant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkq5eaEpDaw&list=PLJZme9ZBIhG9gOB4uLw5vO2v5SSxF71iw&index=4
One can find it on youtube and several other channels
Yes, I know we are all supposed to hate the Germans, or something like that.
For some bizarre reason, I JUST CANNOT BRING MYSELF to hate the Germans.
So if you speak their difficult language, LISTEN to these clips.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=allesdichtmachen&qpvt=allesdichtmachen&FORM=VDRE
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Angela
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 12:01 am Sujet du message: Re: Allesdichtmachen - German actors, singers etc. get to WO |
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Katharine Kanter a écrit: |
I know we are all supposed to hate the Germans, or something like that.
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Which nation should I hate, being German - what would you suggest? You seem to be an expert. Just out of curiosity.
And this: There's a shitstorm blowing against the videos.
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/coronavirus-auflagen-protest-101.html
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haydn Site Admin
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 8:03 am Sujet du message: Re: Allesdichtmachen - German actors, singers etc. get to WO |
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Angela a écrit: |
Katharine Kanter a écrit: |
I know we are all supposed to hate the Germans, or something like that.
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Which nation should I hate, being German - what would you suggest? You seem to be an expert. Just out of curiosity.
And this: There's a shitstorm blowing against the videos.
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/coronavirus-auflagen-protest-101.html |
1. Das war absolut klar ironisch gemeint, sonst hätte ich es sofort zensiert.
2. Nur einige Regisseure und Schauspieler haben Ihre Clips zurückgezogen, und von "shitstorm" kann deshalb kaum die Rede sein.
3. Die Kunstler, die Ihre Clips zurückgezogen haben, sind hauptsächlich - wenn nicht ausschliesslich Mitwirkenden der Fernsehserie "Tatort".
4. Das von Ihnen zitierte Artikel stammt aus der Website der Tageschau, also ARD.
5. Ganz zufällig ist der Produzent von "Tatort" ... die ARD. |
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Angela
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 9:53 am Sujet du message: |
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All German newspapers have headlines about the videos today, the German twitter trends were full of them yesterday. We have horrified comments from nurses, doctors, politicians and many, many other actors. If that is not a shitstorm, I wouldn't know what is.
Heike Makatsch or Kostja Ullmann (for example), who apologized yesterday, do not earn their living by Tatort, other Tatort actors keep their videos up. My link was an example, and other than the BBC, the German ARD is still a widely independent broadcaster.
The discussion in Germany rages exactly about the fine line between irony and cynicism. I venture to say which side Mrs. Kanter is on.
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Jonquille
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 11:42 am Sujet du message: |
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Est-il possible d'expliquer aux non germanophones de quoi il s'agit ?
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haydn Site Admin
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 12:26 pm Sujet du message: |
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En gros, toute une série d'acteurs, de réalisateurs, de producteurs de télé, de théâtre et autres spectacles en Allemagne ont réalisé et monté ensemble une série de vidéo-clips parodiques sur le thème du confinement total (alles dicht machen : tout fermer) pour protester contre les mesures de plus en plus contraignantes et autoritaires pour "lutter" contre l'épidémie de Covid-19. A. Merkel vient de faire voter au Bundestag une loi très controversée lui permettant de passer par dessus les parlements régionaux (Länder) au cas où ceux-ci se montreraient récalcitrants à appliquer des directives trop sévères. Ce clip a eu tout d'abord un grand succès, et a été soutenu par des personnalités de tous horizons politiques, jusqu'à ce qu'Alice Weidel, l'une des dirigeantes du parti "Alternative für Deutschland" (AfD), ait eu le malheur de dire qu'elle trouvait cette initiative sympathique elle aussi. Certains artistes qui ont collaboré à ce clip ont alors renoncé à leur participation au motif de ne pas "soutenir l'extrême-droite" (le projet n'avait à l'origine aucune coloration politique particulière). Ces retraits ont principalement concerné des acteurs et réalisateurs d'une série télévisée populaire en Allemagne, Tatort, produite et diffusée par la chaîne publique ARD. Celle-ci s'est lancée dans une violente campagne de contestation de cette initiative, notamment via son site d'information Tageschau, repris ensuite par d'autres organes de presse. |
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Katharine Kanter
Inscrit le: 19 Jan 2004 Messages: 1479 Localisation: Paris
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Posté le: Sam Avr 24, 2021 7:24 pm Sujet du message: Allesdichtmachen is FANTASTIC |
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Allesdichtmachen is fantastic.
Elegant, reserved and devastating.
Creative.
Brain-Power applied to solving an extremely serious problem of ideology.
Each one of those theatre people wrote their own part in the Play.
It was not pre-scripted.
This rabbit WILL NOT be put back into the hat.
Nor will the million or so people in London demonstrating today be put back into the hat ...
WIR SIND DAS VOLK ... a reference which some of us may, just possibly, recall?
As for being anti-German ... NOTHING could be farther from the truth.
BTW, to get back to the ballet domain, my co-religionary Heinrich Heine of WILI fame (a convert to Protestantism but, hey, nobody's perfect) wrote a number of unflattering things about his countrymen ... and has just been censored from Facebook or some other ludicrous GAFA platform.
200 years after his death.
I kid you not.
Might a reader care to enlighten us, and explain how one shall draw the Line between Irony and Cynicism in Heine ?
Just to keep things on the strictly academic and impersonal plane?
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Angela
Inscrit le: 29 Avr 2011 Messages: 172
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Posté le: Dim Avr 25, 2021 9:02 am Sujet du message: |
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Celle-ci s'est lancée dans une violente campagne de contestation de cette initiative, notamment via son site d'information Tageschau, repris ensuite par d'autres organes de presse. |
The protests came from very different sources, mainly from other German actors and comedians via Instagram (Nora Tschirner, Jan Böhmermann, Ulrich Matthes, if you want to Google them) - not from the ARD. The broadcaster only reported the protests. I beg to make this difference.
Almost all comments in the German newspapers condemn #allesdichtmachen, mainly because some of the videos are just plain stupid, for example an actor mocking people trying to breath on a ventilator. Very "elegant, reserved and creative", yes. Heine would have been proud 
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Katharine Kanter
Inscrit le: 19 Jan 2004 Messages: 1479 Localisation: Paris
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Posté le: Dim Avr 25, 2021 3:15 pm Sujet du message: Understanding poetry: Davidsbündler |
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Just so we all know, Allesdichtmachen has been openly, publicly, supported by men - yes MEN, Dare one Say It? - such as the former head of the Verfassungsschutz (German MI5, more or less) Hans-Georg Maassen, or Dr. Stefan Homburg of the Leibniz University at Hannover.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a number of the artists who took part in Allesdichtmachen have received death threats, including death threats against their children.
"Übrigens: Wenn Videos von dieser Seite verschwinden, dann heißt das nicht zwingend, dass die jeweiligen Leute sich distanzieren. Es kann auch bedeuten, dass jemand sich einfach nicht in der Lage sieht, diesen Shitstorm auszuhalten, oder dass Familie und Kinder bedroht werden."
allesdichtmachen.de
Other Friendly Neighbourhood Gauleiters are proposing Berufsverbot (forbidden to exercise the acting profession in future) for the participants, and Friendly Neighbourghood GAFA Youtube, has removed Alldesdichtmachen from its search engine, after it reached 10 million, I repeat, TEN MILLION views in the German-speaking world.
Allesdichtmachen is now the number 1 hashtag on Twitter. I have no idea what that means because I belong to no social media, but I imagine it means that millions have been reading Allesdichtmachen's twitter messages.
Which are the new Xenien of this XenienJahr 2021 (for a French master of the Xenien, allow me to suggest Dr. Marlon/Reinfo Covid. His way with the French language is beyond belief - poetry in 126 characters. Vivid, and er, not always tasteful, but poetry nonetheless.)
Dansomanie being an ARTISTIC Website, and Uncle Balanchine having made a ballet ForChrissake, on the Davidsbündler, I should like to stress that most of the contributions to allesdichtmachen actually qualify as POETRY, in the strongest sense of the term.
From the Greek POEIEN, to create.
If you can't CREATE a Shitstorm in the real world, you might as well be that Von Platen of whom Heine was not terribly fond, I believe. Or perhaps Carl Maria Weber ... who doesn't hold up well against Shitstormer Ludwig v. B.
Or against that other Shitstormer Robert Schumann of the Davidsbündler.
Let's just say, to cut it short, that Allesdichtmachen are the Davidsbündler of our time.
Or, as Rechtsanwalt Holge Fischer has just said concerning new para. 28B of the Infektionsschützgesetz: Gott rette Deutschland.
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Katharine Kanter
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Posté le: Lun Avr 26, 2021 1:56 pm Sujet du message: Biting off more than one can chew |
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Madam, you have bitten off more than you can chew.
Plainly, you are overjoyed by the threat of Berufsverbot and more generally, officialdom's attack on the Davidsbund.
I shall leave you to your joy.
Nice little word in German for that - Schadenfreude.
On s'amuse comme on peut, n'est-ce pas?
For my part, I prefer to discuss with adults able to wield arguments other than veiled - or not so veiled - threats.
And so, I bid you ADIEU.
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haydn Site Admin
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Posté le: Mar Avr 27, 2021 5:34 pm Sujet du message: |
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Katharine Kanter a écrit: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03oCOM4jIAM&t=11s
A group of Germans have taken a leaf from the Davidsbündler, and have just posted up this poem, complete with video clips (one minute 58 seconds - have you the patience?)
The translation: I WILL NO LONGER PLAY THE GAME BY THE RULES
Here is their poem
Ich mach da nicht mehr mit!
Ja, wenn es nicht verboten wär,
dann ließ ich es jetzt krachen!
Mit Freunden, tanzend kreuz und quer,
würd ich albern sein und lachen.
Ja, wenn es nicht verboten wär,
würd ich jetzt gemeinsam singen.
Mit Band und mit nem großen Chor,
die Luft zum klingen bringen.
Tja -
all das und mehr ist jetzt verboten.
Angeblich, weil’s gefährlich ist.
Doch, wer beginnt das auszuloten,
merkt, ganz plausibel ist das nicht.
Drum -
diese Fragen müssen sein -
Wer wagt mit uns den ersten Schritt?
Wer steht mit auf und stimmt mit ein:
Ich mach da nicht mehr mit!
Ich mach da nicht mehr mit!
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